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Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Posted on: August 13, 2009 11:42 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2009 9:59 am
OK, I'll disagree with my colleagues, Mike Freeman and Pete Prisco. The Michael Vick signing makes perfect sense for Philadelphia.

That doesn't mean I like it, but it means I understand it.

First of all, there is no way the Eagles make this move without getting Donovan McNabb's approval, and if you don't believe it then you don't know the relationship between McNabb and Andy Reid.

Second, Vick is not a threat to McNabb. I can't emphasize that enough. I don't know what Vick offers after two years in prison, and I have no idea what his skills are now. I guess that's what we and the Eagles are about to find out. But this is is McNabb's team, and let me ask you: Which quarterback would you rather have? Yep, me, too. It's McNabb, by 10 lengths.

Third, McNabb urged the organization to get him playmakers. Well, Vick is a playmaker. Everyone focuses on Vick the quarterback, but the Eagles could line him up at running back, wide receiver or put him in a Wildcat formation. Or they could line him up at quarterback. What they won't do is line him up at starting quarterback.

The Eagles have a zillion options, provided Vick has something to offer. This move is all about loading up for a push to the Super Bowl, and that's what McNabb urged the club to do. So why wouldn't he endorse it? Yeah, it will cause a distraction, but tell me when that hasn't been part of the scene in Philadelphia. Besides, McNabb is the face of the Eagles, and there is no way this move was made with the idea of having Vick supplant him.

This is a one-year contract, with a second year at the club's option, which means the Eagles have the next two seasons to figure out what, if anything, this guy has to offer. If he's trouble, the Eagles do what they did with Terrell Owens and can him; if he goes along with the program, he's a potential weapon to push the club closer to the top.

Category: NFL

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: August 21, 2009 9:13 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

We'd be lucky to get a job period if it was any of us regular folk. 
But is he really being "rewarded"? His earning potential is a small fraction of what it was before going to jail. Exactly as it would be with any of us. It's not a matter of what you would get after being released from prison, because your earning potential before going to prison was nothing to write home about. Upon release, your earning potential would drop, just like Vick's dropped.

I can understand the outrage of animal lovers, but the whole "he's being rewarded" argument falls flat. He signed a $130 million dollar contract in 2004. Today he's taking $1.6 million to try and get back on track in the league. And that doesn't even factor in the endorsement dollars he was making. His earning potential is forever diminished.

It's all a matter of perceptions.

Since: Aug 5, 2008
Posted on: August 14, 2009 4:35 pm

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

If Vick's act can create some genuine awareness to prevent further cruelties from taking place, I'll move past some of my own shortcomings and find a way to see forgiveness as an option.You know, some of the dramatic and high and mighty attitude among some of you needs to disappear. You act like Michael Vick wronged you. You can find a way to see forgiveness as an option? Michael Vick doesn't owe YOU or anyone else an apology for anything. Those he should apologize to are dead. He can't change that.

But, I forget, this is America. We all have this repulsive sense of entitlement. No one is capable of changing, and no one deserves a second chance. Not in America. He bankrolled a dogfighting ring that resulted in the torture and deaths of dogs. A disgusting crime, for sure. So that means the guy should have been executed? I don't really understand. He spent 2 years in a federal prison. What more do you want from the guy?

Yes, the crime was more than horrific. But at the end of the day, no animal's life is equal to a human's life. Never has been, never will be. Therefore, the crime isn't as bad a killing a person. Don't forget, Leonard Little killed a woman, and he was only suspended for a few games. He's still playing. Where's the outrage there?

Get over yourselves.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: August 14, 2009 3:50 pm

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Thanks for this great post, CKB19.  As a longtime Philly resident/fan, my heart bleeds for this tacit acceptance of unspeakable cruelty in the name of team-advancement (a questionable outcome, at that).  Had the team inscribed into Vick's contract community-service responsibilities addressing the specific horrors of animal cruelty rampant in this city (and state), a case could be made for the ethicality of the signing: certainly, a healthy discussion could have been started on this crucial issue.  Instead, the Eagles have endorsed the obvious profit/winning-over-all-else motive in the most graphic way possible.

There's a complex subtext here, though, that we football fans don't like to probe: i.e., football players are themselves treated like so-much expendable meat by a system that cares little to nothing about the disturbing effects its severe violence inflicts on participants.  In many ways, dog-fighting mirrors the lives of its perpetrators, who are themselves caught-up in a world that cares little about them as individuals.  We ought to think more about our own complicity in a world in which "it's only an animal" is often the entry-point for human-on-human violence.

Since: Feb 7, 2008
Posted on: August 14, 2009 1:42 pm

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

With Vick in town, McNabb will be on a short leash...uh, pardon the pun.

Since: Apr 27, 2009
Posted on: August 14, 2009 11:37 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

peace and love everybody, peace and love. While we're all being so forgiving I say lets OJ Simpson "a stab" at running back and hey while we're at it why not give Marvin Harrison "a shot" at receiver that way we can be one big dysfunctional family fans included

Since: Jan 9, 2009
Posted on: August 14, 2009 11:25 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Thank you Judge. This is a great, non-biased article. Yet again, we're inundated with articles bashing philly fans and teams. I'm watching Vick give a press conference with Tony Dungy and they all they talk about is proving themselves with actions instead of words. This is why philly fans love this move. Mike Freeman wrote about how much we direspect McNabb? Then why did we give him a HUGE raise this year? Articles like that bug me because they presume they know philly fans. If McNabb proved anything the past couple years, it's that he will not keep quiet if he feels disrespected. This is a smart move, Vick can play so many other positions, like Judge said. If anything, it will throw off the cheaters Patriots when they're taping our practices!!!!! jk. Dungy, McNabb, and Reid all approve of this move, that's another reason why THIS IS A GREAT MOVE, and only time will tell how great of a move it is. By the way, Why did Vick get so much time in Levenworth, and Stallworth is out of jail right now for killing a man driving with alcohol in his system? I'll give Freeman a second chance and maybe read another article of his if he gives Vick a second chance.

Since: Mar 18, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2009 11:12 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Agree.  McNabb was a similar type QB when he began and Reid taught him how to play pro QB.  What I am curious is if they designate  him as a QB or as RB or WR.  The non QB number keeps him on the field during games instead of as the 3rd string inactive QB and would still allow him to take some snaps as QB.  Should Vick be able to play and learn how to pass from the pocket, it is conceivable that he replaces McNabb in a couple of years and allows the Eagles continuity with their system.

Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: August 14, 2009 10:34 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Exactly... Prisco just doesn't want Vick in the league. Other than picketters, i don't see any downside to this. You aren't asking him to beat out McNabb for the starting spot. If he is still half as explosive as he once was he can be used on the field. Even if he just battles for the backup spot, i don't see any back draw.

Since: Jan 18, 2008
Posted on: August 14, 2009 9:58 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

I really like the move (from a football stance.)   Vick is a plug and play fit for the Eagles offense.  If McNabb goes down, the Eagles go down.  Vic might be able to slow the bleeding.  As stated, Vick was a heck of an athelete.  If he is 90% of what he use to be, then he should be able to make a non-QB impact immediately. 

Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2009 9:54 am

Vick to Philly? Sorry, it makes sense to me

Great post, Ditkaby135, but the Eagles did contact PETA, the Humane Society (they are excited to have Vick in Philly because there is a big dogfighting problem there and he will be enlisted to help) and the Mayor of Philly to ask opinions and suggestions.  And yes, if you are talented enough you can have multiple chances in football, one of the biggest businesses in the country.

Y'all don't hurt yourselves falling off your high horses, now.

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